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Protective clothing?

Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 10:45 am
by 4Paws
I'm currently visiting my 2 brand new hives about 2 or 3 times a week to feed and inspect. I am wearing some tyvek coveralls and a hat & veil combo. The tyvek coveralls seem to work quite well (I learned that blue jeans don't) but are starting to wear out. Any suggestions as to what I should replace the coveralls with? And is there an upgrade I should consider to the hat and veil that came with Brushy Mtn's beginner kit?

When I remove the inner cover to expose the top feeder I get a lot of bees in the air paying attention to me, I consider this normal but would prefer not to get stung.

Thanks for your time.

Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 11:15 am
by Kurt Bower
The first thing I would do is to get a better feeder. If you have to go into your bees to feed them, you are working too hard.
Check out https://www.dadant.com/catalog/product_ ... cts_id=761
or http://www.beecare.com/indexDynFrames.h ... eder.htm&1
or http://www.brushymountainbeefarm.com/pr ... number=688

No clothing is sting proof except maybe http://www.beeproofsuits.com/

I am surprised you are getting stung through the jeans. Any good bee suit, preferably with a zip in veil, is probably for you.

Kurt

Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 12:11 pm
by Wally
It sounds more like you need to go into a few hives with an experienced beek. You should not have many bees in the air when feeding. Also, I have been stung through jeans maybe 4 times in 30 years. You are doing something to upset the bees.

Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 12:44 pm
by 4Paws
I must be doing something to upset them.
I'm using the hive top feeder but the hive seems to get quite excited when I remove the inner cover. The first feeding or two after installing the new nucs were simple and fast, since the hive has grown feeding has become "an adventure". They are still taking better than a gallon of syrup every 3 days.

I'd welcome advice.

Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 2:44 pm
by Wally
If you are using a hive top feeder, the inner cover shouldn't be on the hive. Put it in the garage or somewhere until you quit feeding. Just lift the outer cover and slide it forward enough to fill the feeder. Do it from the back of the hive. The bees should never know you are there.

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 4:16 am
by Kurt Bower
Perhaps this one has gone queenless?
Have you checked recently for eggs or a queen?

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 10:47 am
by 4Paws
Will place inner cover in storage until needed, thanks.

Haven't checked recently (2 weeks) for queen or new eggs. The hive grew rapidly - I've added two medium supers since installing the original nuc and they were both being used - and is quite active. Since they have become bothered by my attention I've just been feeding them and observing without going into the hive.

Do you recommend an examination?

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 10:54 am
by Wally
yes

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 4:25 am
by Kurt Bower
This weather has put the bees in an unusual manner lately. I normally can work the bees without regard but have noticed more agreesion than usual.
It would certainly pay to verify that the hive is queenright. I wouldnt do a lengthy exam but only enough to see eggs or the queen.

Kurt

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:20 pm
by jae
What kind of bees did you get? Mine were late and are just now starting to hatch out. Mine never act like that. I may be pushing it but when I go to put the syrup in I don't wear any protection. They don't come to the back of the hive to get me. I only wear my garb when Wally has been over and we are going in to check on what is going on.
You definately need someone who know whats what when you are just getting started like me. I don't know what I would do without Wally. Thank goodness he just lives 5 miles from me but I don't want to annoy him too much either. This week he says I have to check the hive my self........ We'll see how much I can screw up first time by myself. Mine are Carniolan and so far the only one they stung was Myra. and that was because she stuck her big black doberman nose in the entrance. :( My poor baby.

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 4:27 am
by Kurt Bower
I personally have a variety of bees around the house.
I have had many Carniolans in the past and think that they are a great bee. Where did you get yours from?
I do not see a problem with feeding and no additional protection, but only if you have the right type of feeder.

Kurt

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:41 am
by 4Paws
Checked the hives, both look good. Filling out nicely. Went into them late morning on a sunny day with much better results - removed the inner cover and filled the top feeders with syrup. Bees really paid me no attention this time.
When I visited the hives in the evening after dinner are the occasions I had the aggressive attention. Hopefully I can fill the feeders now by just raising the cover and sliding forwards a little - should be a fast visit.

I believe that the time of day I visited coupled with my lack of experience riled up the bees more than needed.

Nucs through GCBA.

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 1:04 pm
by jae
Kurt,

When I oredered my Carniolans I was under the impression they were in Ohio when in actuality this guy lives in Ohio but gets them from Northern Calif.


Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 7:13 pm
by Kurt Bower
That sounds reasonable.
I will do some looking when I order again.
thanks!